What was the most useless/worst Clan (in the books)?

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I think it was WindClan. They always needed saving and couldn't really win in a war against the rest of the Clans :/

Well, it wasn't WindClan's fault they were always being picked on. Plus they're not, technically, useless. After all, they knew how to use the tunnels.

Yeah, my sister and I love Windclan. And What Maplestream said is true, Windclan was the only clan in the books who were tunnlers and used those very tunnles for battle. That strikes me as impressive.

I think Thunderclan was. They...were just not as brave and daring when Firestar became leader. I liked Thunderclan better when Bluestar was leader though.

Swaggerclaw wrote:I'm not saying who I voted for.

since there is one other vote for windclan, and it's revealed Fang voted for Windclan. I voted for Bloodclan because they were not even an original clan.

I don't really see how you can say one of the main four clans are worthless/useless because they are the main clans. I also don't see how you can say SkycCan is either. Even if you don't agree with SkyClan accepting kittypets, or whatever, some of the cats in Skyclan are ancestors to some of the cats in the main clans.. So if SkyClan didn't exist some of the cats in the main clans wouldn't..

You don't know who Swaggerclaw voted for. :|

Well, just because they're the main clans, doesn't mean we have to like them. I like RiverClan and ShadowClan the most. ShadowClan for the win!

I know you don't have to like them. But just because someone doesn't like a clan that doesn't make it worthless. : P

Oh haha I was voting on the worst part, not Worthless. :p

RiverClan ftw! I don't think any of the four main Clans are useless or bad. ThunderClan gets all the action. WindClan can use tunnels. RiverClan is pretty much neutral (like Switzerland, only we don't get chocolate ) and I think Leoprdstar wasn't thinking too clearly when she sided with Tigerstar. ShadowClan isn't evil, only mysterious
When I voted SkyClan, I was thinking of the current SkyClan. If you think about it, they're kind of lame compared to how great they originally were.

Maplestream wrote:I don't think SkyClan appears AT ALL in the actual series O.o so pretty much, they're nonexistant to all the cats at the lake except Sandstorm.

I think Skyclan is great (They are in the books, in some special editions). i voted Bloodclan, but now i regret it, because they are the most helpful clan. they KILLED tigerstar!

But the special editions don't count as the ACTUAL SERIES. And, well, BloodClan tried to take over the forest. But I guess they were a bit useful too.

I voted windclan because they never really helped anyone EVER in the books,so they were pretty much useless

Maplestream wrote:Well, it wasn't WindClan's fault they were always being picked on. Plus they're not, technically, useless. After all, they knew how to use the tunnels.

That, and the fact that they fought against the DF too.

Maple, that reason can't count because all the clans fought against the Dark Forest except for SkyClan.

Thunderclaw: I voted windclan because they never really helped anyone EVER in the books,so they were pretty much useless

You probably forgot that WndClan helped ThunderClan against the badgers. If zwindCan hadn't helped ThunderClan, it might've been demolished, not to mention devastating casualties and losses.

No clan is Useless, and no clan is The worst. of course there's a protagonist, ShadowClan, but they're not Evil. they all have their ups and downs. No clan is useless, each of them have a purpose. :3 that's how I look at it.

*antagonist is the "bad guy"

WindClan was also helpful when there was LionClan vs. TigerClan. they helped ThunderClan to win, which helped to drive BloodClan out.

Definetely bloodclan. No nine lives!

I picked the Tribe of Rushing Water, because only in two books do they show up with any meaningful attachement to the story plot. They only showed up in four books all together, out of twenty-four, and it's just sort of random, like; "Hey! Guys! I have a GREAT idea for Warriors!" "What is it?" "Let's make them discover a group of cats that live in the mountains so that we have a reason to kill Feathertail to make the story more dramatic!" "Okay! Sounds fun!" ...Really. That's what I think happened.

wow you have read all the books I like you

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BloodClan was needed for Whitestorm to die and Branblevlaw to become Deputy though.

The Tribe was needed for Lionblaze, Dovepaw and Jayfeather because if Feather hadn't died, Crow probably would have had kits with her, then no three and the clans would've been destroyed.

CheeseStar: Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! I fixed it! All better, I won't do anything again!
Eaglestrike: I think you mean Graystripe, not Brambleclaw, but that's absolutely true. I didn't think of that...but, the whole Clans stopping there didn't really have meaning, I don't think...can you think of anything? Ummm, in Outcast, the only reason was because of intruders in the TRIBE'S territory, although I guess it's when Jayfeather/paw got the dream about the fourth...fine. I admit. SoTM is the only one where they didn't have any meaning. XD I didn't think of those. You're smart!

Thanks!

Also, Tigerstar would still be alive if it weren't for BloodClan.

Hmm.. I don't seem to remember much of that book. They could've stayed there just for a friendly visit, after all, They made friends with a lot of the members, or just a place to stay the night.

I chose the Tribe of Rushing Water. I always found them boring, and completley defenseless. They always relied on the Clans whenever they were in trouble, and could never stand up for themselves.