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Post by Streamstar on June 30th 2013, 09:48

This is a disscusion game, where we change something the happened in the Warriors series, to see how it would effect the rest of the series. This is sort of like dicussions about things like if Snowfur lived, but instead we'll dicuss multiple things, or switch topics every once in a while.

Here's the first topic:

What would happen if:
Feathertail hadn't died
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Flameblossom on June 30th 2013, 10:45

(This is kinda a huge spoiler, so I'm putting everything in a spoiler.)
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If Feathertail hadn't died, Crowfeather would've mated with her and wouldn't have feelings for Leafpool. If he didn't have feelings for Leafpool, Hollyleaf, Jayfeather, and Lionblaze wouldn't have been born. If they hadn't been born, then they wouldn't have the power of the stars in their paws. Well, not Hollyleaf. She doesn't matter at all. Dovewing and Ivypool would've still been born, but that leaves 2 more cats related to Firestar have to have the power of the stars in their paws. Leafpool, Squirrelflight, Ivypool, or Cloudtail could've held the power of the stars in their paws. Or the prophecy wouldn't have exzisted at all. (Man, I really misspelled that.) Also Breezepelt might not have been born, but he still might've because Crowfeather mated with Nightcloud to prove he was loyal to WIndClan, and he might still want to prove he's loyal since his mate was a RiverClan cat. I could go on all day about what would've happened if Feathertail didn't die, but I'm going to a cookout. So I don't wanna miss that by talking about this.

What would've happened if
Spoiler:
Swiftpaw didn't get mauled by dogs?
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Nyx on June 30th 2013, 18:00

Well...

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If he didn't get mauled by dogs, I guess he never went investigating with Brightpaw. So Brightheart would still be perfectly healed. I guess Cloudtail would eventually be mates with her no matter what. Swiftpaw would probably go and grow up to be a warrior. Although Brightheart would've never been able to teach the other ThunderClan warriors "moving around in the dark" moves in preparation for the DF attack. That's it.

What would've happened if
Spoiler:
Thistleclaw had killed Oakheart the time Oakheart crossed the ThunderClan border?

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Illusion on June 30th 2013, 21:18

Well...:
Oakheart was actually killed by a rockslide during the (a) Battle for Sunningrocks. Oakheart would probably become leader if he lived, and he probably won't join TigerClan, so RiverClan will not be allied with Tigerstar. Then, Stonefur wouldn't be killed, and he may have been made deputy. Then BloodClan comes to the forest, Scourge kills Tigerstar, and so on. Oakstar may have lost a few lives in the past, but is still strong. He loses one or two in the battle. After that, The Twolegs come and wreck everything. Mistyfoot and all the other people get taken and then gets rescued but Graystripe is still trapped and then it's the Great Journey. Oakstar dies the same time Leopardstar is supposed to die and Stonestar takes over RiverClan. There are about 10000 different ways this story could've turned out.

What would happen if...
Spoiler:
Thistleclaw was a good and wise warrior and had no treachery and aggression towards Bluefur and Kittypets?
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Flameblossom on July 1st 2013, 06:44

Spoiler:
Thistleclaw's apprentice was Tigerstar, right? Right. So when Bluefur, Thistleclaw, and Tigerstar (Tigerpaw) had a patrol, they ran into Scourge (Tiny) as a kit. Thistleclaw commanded Tigerpaw to attack it, which angered Tiny and he wanted revenge. That also triggered his anger. So if Thistleclaw was nicer, the battle with BloodClan wouldn't have happened. And then Tigerstar would be nice, since Thistleclaw trained him to be...a Tigerstar, so that means Firestar (Fireheart) wouldn't try to drive Tigerstar out of the forest and Tigerstar would lead ThunderClan and he would be the one who brought SkyClan back together. But then Mothwing and Hawkfrost wouldn't have been born, because Tigerstar met Sasha when he was driven out of ThunderClan. But getting back to the SkyClan thing, when Firestar was bringing them together, Skywatcher gave him the prophecy, There will be three, kin of your kin, who hold the power of the stars in their paws. So then either Tigerstar gets that prophecy, or that prophecy won't exist. So the prophecy doesn't exist, Dovewing, Lionblaze, and Jayfeather will just be plain warriors. That might be it. I'm sure there has to be more, though.

What would happen if...
Spoiler:
The Clans didn't need to go on the Great Journey and stayed in the forest?
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Shimmerpaw on July 1st 2013, 12:48

Well,:
If the cats hadn't gone on the great journey, then Feathertail would still be alive, Crowfeather wouldn't have met Feathertail, and Brambleclaw and Squirelflight might not have fallen in love. Also, Cinderpelt would still be alive since they wouldn't have gotten attacked by badgers since they wouldn't be in the new territory.

What would happen if...
Spoiler:
Firestar hadn't met Princess?


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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Flameblossom on July 1st 2013, 13:18

Oh god that IS a big one
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Cloudtail wouldn't have come into ThunderClan, then Brightpaw and Swiftpaw wouldn't have been jealous of Cloudtail becoming a warrior first and go kill the dogs, so Brightheart would look normal, and Swiftpaw would be alive. Whitewing wouldn't have been born, neither would Dovewing and Ivypool. So Hollyleaf would hold the power of the stars in her paws, I guess

What would happen if
Spoiler:
Rusty decided to stay a kittypet
Now THERE'S a big one
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Scarheart on July 1st 2013, 14:54

what would happen if......

Spoiler:
If jayfeather wasn't blind


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If all the clans never moved to new territories


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If tigerstar never met scourge and never was killed by him also if scourge became good and bloodclan joined the clans.


These are some big changes.


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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Noxe on July 1st 2013, 14:57

@Flamepaw: basically the whole story would never have happened Razz

@Scarheart: you're supposed to answer then give one.

What would happen if (I didn't read the previous so sorry if I repeat)
Spoiler:
Midnight didn't exist

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Illusion on July 1st 2013, 18:01

Hmm...:
If Midnight didn't exist, it would probably either be Rock who told the journeying cats about the dying warrior, or the four cats didn't even have to go to the sun-drowned place at all and StarClan told the leaders in the forest...MUCH earlier which means the cats have time to prepare for destruction and Graystripe may not have been trapped, so there is no Millie or her kits. And so, there might not have been a dying warrior at ALL since the prophecy was early. StarClan would've guided the warriors themselves by sending a bright light or something. Then, Mudfur dies mid-journey. I forgot to mention Feathertail, but she does not die in the first journey, but on the second. Stormfur stays with the tribe, and everything else happens without Millie.

What would happen if...
Spoiler:
Leafpool never met Crowfeather
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Moonshadow on July 2nd 2013, 09:09

Spoiler:
 If Leafpool never met Crowfeather, then Jayfeather, Lionblaze and Hollyleaf would never be born. Jayfeather would never visit Half Moon and tell her she was Stoneteller. Half Moon had a sign from the Tribe of Endless when she was Stonetellerthat told her some of the tribe had to leave and the part of the tribe that left helped create the clans, (Thunder was half Tribe) so with out Jayfeather the clans would not exist. So the whole story wouldn't happen. 

What would happen if...
Spoiler:
the leaders of the clans let Skyclan stay?
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Streamstar on July 2nd 2013, 13:01

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Skyclan would still be in the forest, and Spottedleaf, along with the rest of Cloudstar's descendants wouldn't be in Thunderclan, and probably wouldn't be born at all. (This includes Redtail, Patchpelt, Willowpelt, Leopardfoot, and either Adderfang or Swiftbreeze.) So Sandstorm would never be born, and Firestar couldn't be her mate, so Leafpool, Squirrelflight, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Hollyleaf wouldn't be born. Firestar wouldn't go on the journey to rebuild Skyclan, and wouldn't recieve the prophecy from Skywatcher. Graystripe, Sootfur, Rainwhisker, Darkstripe, and Sorreltail would never be born. Longtail would also never be born, and Tigerstar wouldn't be either. So none of his kits would be born, and a lot of characters in the series wouldn't exsist. The cats who still exsist that were killed by Tigerstar might still be alive. Firestar might never join the clan, since Bluestar wouldn't get the prophecy from Spottedleaf that fire would save the clan, and the clan wouldn't need to be saved, since Tigerstar doesn't exsist. Scourge might be good, and would probably have never come to the clans. Most of the cats who went to Sundrown Place wouldn't exsist (Crowfeather might exist still) so Crowfeather and four other cats (one from each clan) would go. They would go on the Great Journey, but with many different characters. The Three would never be born. The Dark Forest might not attack, because the main cats who were training cats in their sleep were Tigerstar and Hawkfrost, and they might have been the one's who organized it. (They still could possibly attack though). Jayfeather couldn't tell Half Moon that she was supposed to be stoneteller, and he wouldn't have made the descision from the tribe to go to the mountains, but the real Jay's Wing might have done that. Five clans would be living in the lake territories, but the cats in Thunderclan would be very, if not completely different.

What would happen if:
Gray Wing had saved Bright Stream
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Scarheart on July 2nd 2013, 13:11

what if..........

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What if Bluestar never brought her kits over to riverclan and mosskit would still be alive.

( not sure if this was placed already)
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What if Ravenpaw never left the clan

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Streamstar on July 2nd 2013, 13:15

~Scarheart, you're supposed to answer the one posted before yours~
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Scarheart on July 2nd 2013, 13:19

(Oh Sorry. How do you do that? I forgot how. Sweat Embarassed )
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Streamstar on July 2nd 2013, 13:26

~You have to read what the person before you put in the spoiler that says "What would happen if:" and then in a spoiler in your post, you explain what would be different in the Warriors series because of that. After you do that, you post a spoiler with a 'what would happen if..' spoiler. If you need examples, look at some of the posts others have posted.~
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Scarheart on July 2nd 2013, 13:29

( I will just stop posting here. Embarassed Sweat )
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Nyx on July 2nd 2013, 13:37

Streamstar wrote:
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Skyclan would still be in the forest, and Spottedleaf, along with the rest of Cloudstar's descendants wouldn't be in Thunderclan, and probably wouldn't be born at all. (This includes Redtail, Patchpelt, Willowpelt, Leopardfoot, and either Adderfang or Swiftbreeze.) So Sandstorm would never be born, and Firestar couldn't be her mate, so Leafpool, Squirrelflight, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Hollyleaf wouldn't be born. Firestar wouldn't go on the journey to rebuild Skyclan, and wouldn't recieve the prophecy from Skywatcher. Graystripe, Sootfur, Rainwhisker, Darkstripe, and Sorreltail would never be born. Longtail would also never be born, and Tigerstar wouldn't be either. So none of his kits would be born, and a lot of characters in the series wouldn't exsist. The cats who still exsist that were killed by Tigerstar might still be alive. Firestar might never join the clan, since Bluestar wouldn't get the prophecy from Spottedleaf that fire would save the clan, and the clan wouldn't need to be saved, since Tigerstar doesn't exsist. Scourge might be good, and would probably have never come to the clans. Most of the cats who went to Sundrown Place wouldn't exsist (Crowfeather might exist still) so Crowfeather and four other cats (one from each clan) would go. They would go on the Great Journey, but with many different characters. The Three would never be born. The Dark Forest might not attack, because the main cats who were training cats in their sleep were Tigerstar and Hawkfrost, and they might have been the one's who organized it. (They still could possibly attack though). Jayfeather couldn't tell Half Moon that she was supposed to be stoneteller, and he wouldn't have made the descision from the tribe to go to the mountains, but the real Jay's Wing might have done that. Five clans would be living in the lake territories, but the cats in Thunderclan would be very, if not completely different.

What would happen if:
Gray Wing had saved Bright Stream

I have no idea about this. o.o I read the sample of the Dawn of the Clans but it was only like the first fifteen pages.

What would happen if~
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Bluestar had assigned Dustpaw to watch Rusty (Firestar), not Graypaw?

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Stareye on July 12th 2013, 12:09

This is so sad. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one that read Dawn of The Clans. But now I know there's at least one!Shocked
Hmm...:
If Bright Stream lived, Gray Wing and Clear Sky wouldn't have grown distant from each other and stayed brothers, so Clear Sky would have been less, or not at all, likely to split from the rest of the group and found SkyClan. (Okay, there's no name for his new group yet, but we all know it's coming) So Clear Sky and Storm would have never gotten together and Thunder wouldn't have been born, so the whole of ThunderClan would not exist, so the majority of the plot in the main series would be gone. Then maybe Storm would have chosen Gray Wing and Turtle Tail will leave the clan for good. (I think it's obvious that she'll come back once Gray Wing wakes up and realizes that she likes him)
Hmm...:
Dustpaw would obviously be a lot less forgiving toward Rusty, so the battle would have turned out a lot worse for both of them and Rusty would have a much worse impression of the Clans. He could refuse the offer to join ThunderClan, but something tells me that it would have taken a lot more than a rude apprentice to keep Rusty away from his destiny.

What would happen if..:
Silverstream had lived after giving birth to Graystripe's kits.

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Leafshine on August 21st 2013, 16:38

Hmmm...
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If Silverstream had lived,than Graystripe would never had fallen in love with Millie, so blossomfall, bumblestripe, and briarlight would nver had been born.
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Stareye on August 22nd 2013, 12:03

@Scarheart; there's no reason to do that! I am sure a lot of people want you to contribute, just try to remember how it works first. Now to answer your questions..
Hmm..:
Well, than Thistleclaw would have become deputy, and eventullay leader, and throw ThunderClan into an age of darkness and pointless war, basically becoming the Brokenstar of ThunderClan. So a lot of warriors would have died in his battles, some before they could become parents and prevent the birth of a lot of characters. Extending that thought, since Bluestar was never leader, Rusty never would have been invited into ThunderClan, so Leafpool, Squirrelflight, Lionblaze, Jayfeather, and Hollyleaf would never be born, so the entire story would not exist. So assuming Bluestar's kits survived Thistleclaw's rule and ThunderClan eventullay overthrew him, Stonefur never would have died because of Tigerstar's "half-clan purge", and Mistyfoot may have eventullay become Mistystar of ThunderClan instead of RiverClan. Also, if Mosskit had lived, we may have seen more Bluestar descendants.

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Nyx on August 25th 2013, 10:24

Lol that's so many things that would happen from a single different event.

What would happen if Snowfur had lived, but Whitekit/Whitestorm died?

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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Thunderclaw on August 26th 2013, 16:09

Well....:
Then, I guess Rusty would still be invited into the clans, but when Bluestar died, Fireheat might of chosen Graystripe as deputy first, then maybe Snowfur died in the Bloodclan battle, or maybe not.

What would have happened if
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The badgers destroyed Thunderclan when they moved to the new territories?
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Re: What would happen if... (Spoiler Alert)

Post by Leafshine on August 31st 2013, 16:48

I'm going to stop posting now... Embarassed
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